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Postby aricia656 » 21.08.2009, 19:59

Why is there nothing in this section. Is everyone too scared to start debating? Where do you start!!?!!
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Postby freewun » 28.08.2009, 16:54

aricia656 wrote:Why is there nothing in this section. Is everyone too scared to start debating? Where do you start!!?!!

Hello,
Perhaps politics is thought to be a bit heavy for a dating site!!
Might get things going with opinions on the Al-Megrahi debacle?
I think it was the right decision possibly executed too soon but handled rather badly.
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Postby aricia656 » 28.08.2009, 17:46

Hello!
I don't know whether to agree with you or not. The perfect society is something we might all aspire to, but we are so far away from it, and then there is the real world to cope with. So many issues.
It would help if we, the general public actually knew what the truths were. Can't help feeling cynical about politics and politicians, I feel like we are living in a vacuum where the truth is out there somewhere!!
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Postby freewun » 29.08.2009, 13:15

aricia656 wrote:Hello!
I don't know whether to agree with you or not. The perfect society is something we might all aspire to, but we are so far away from it, and then there is the real world to cope with. So many issues.
It would help if we, the general public actually knew what the truths were. Can't help feeling cynical about politics and politicians, I feel like we are living in a vacuum where the truth is out there somewhere!!

Hello Aricia,
I agree there are probably many aspects of this case that are unknown and likely to stay that way to suit leaders and politicians involved with their trade and political deals etc.
However I don't feel this affects the basic premise of release on compassionate grounds. Even if he was guilty he is dying and as such we put ourselves ethically above "terrorists" and the like by showing compassion and allowing him to die at home with his family. You might argue about the timing ie three months or one month but given the uncertainty of such diagnoses I suppose it is better to err on the side of caution.
I have asked myself if I would come to the same conclusion if it was Hitler in this situation.
What do you think?
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Postby aricia656 » 31.08.2009, 12:03

Actually, I think there are situations when different measures must prevail.
I believe the decision should have been taken by a delegated group of representatives for the victims, not by some detached Scottish Minister.
One can also lead a life of personal compassion without losing sight of alternative world views and the effects of sending out the wrong messages.
Better to take a long term view (that might alter immediate actions) than send out messages of weakness and invite contempt, which then results in further carnage.
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Postby freewun » 31.08.2009, 18:24

aricia656 wrote:Actually, I think there are situations when different measures must prevail.
I believe the decision should have been taken by a delegated group of representatives for the victims, not by some detached Scottish Minister.
One can also lead a life of personal compassion without losing sight of alternative world views and the effects of sending out the wrong messages.
Better to take a long term view (that might alter immediate actions) than send out messages of weakness and invite contempt, which then results in further carnage.


The whole point of the law being administered by the state is of course to detach it from emotion and thus hopefully achieve justice rather than revenge.
I don't think showing compassion is a form of weakness as it results from having the power in the situation concerned to opt for compassion or not.
This assumes that the compassion is excercised genuinely and hopefully can be shown to be so and has not come about as the result of extraneous pressures.
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Postby aricia656 » 07.09.2009, 11:59

Hello again!
Global politics is a game of chess in which we are all compulsory players. It is unwise, I believe, to detach ourselves from that in an attempt to expunge our own conscience with no regard to the outcome.
In addition, one rarely gets justice under law. Laws are made for political reasons and as a strategy for controlling societies. There bear no relationship to morality and are not formed for moral purposes.
Morality is left to the leading religions to sort out. That is why the world is so globally disfunctional.
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Postby Guest » 08.01.2010, 23:57

1 things 4 sure G/Brown is on his way out. im no tpry fan but hey Blair took us into Iraqu under falseness ,now were stuck in Afghanistan,soon it will be Yeman .this is all wrong.
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Postby luv2so » 24.06.2010, 16:53

Live is political, and I don't hate life, but when I think of politics I think of back biting, gossip and playing games. In Canada we have a so called democratic society but what a joke. I went to Belize where there are two parties. Each one takes turns running the country and both suck. In canada we have two primary parties who do the same. It just doesn't matter...politicians do whatever the wealthy want them to do because money talks. That's all I have to say about politics.
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Postby Twizzle59 » 25.06.2010, 14:05

Not much better in th UK ?
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Postby bazzakko » 14.09.2011, 7:42

maybe I am being oversimplistic but I think..being nice to terrorists....being  kind to criminals and looters......allowing mass uncomtrolled immigration....is good political capital....it sends the message to the world that we are a kind compassionate nation..
 But if you are an ordinary working citizen or a pensioner....you  have no rights. Pensioners are the embarresment governments want to sweep under the carpet.They are always turning up like a bad smell....we will not leave them in peace and crawl away and die gracefully..We badly damage the governments street cred.If  you could condense the character assessment of any government  into one individual you would say ..what a gutless slimeball..
 As they used to say in the 19th century....instead of thinking of Darkest Africa.... think of Darkest England.
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